cybermonklives ([info]cybermonklives) wrote,
@ 2007-01-05 18:44:00
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Israeli Science Fiction is --- DEAD!
[info]jspoons drew my attention recently to this post (in Hebrew) which is so wonderful I thought I'd share it. This is a post from a young (21, according to his userpage) writer who is complaining about the functioning (or rather, lack of) of the Israeli magazine Chalomot Be'aspamia. All par for the course (as the magazine has been going through some difficulties for a while), but it is this particular sentiment that makes me really happy:

Israeli science fiction has atrophied, in my opinion, and there is need for new blood.

Why is this so wonderful? Well, when I was growing up in Israel, particularly the period of 1985 to 1995, was a period where there was no such thing as Israeli science fiction. The magazine Fantasia 2000 was no longer publishing. There were no organised fans that I knew of. There were no magazines, no conventions, certainly no Israeli writers - there was nothing. If you liked SF, you borrowed books from the library, and that was that. As a school project once, I wanted to write about Israeli SF. I contacted Emmanuel Lotem, a long-standing fan, editor and translator, who said to me: "I'm happy to help you with your work but you have to change the topic. There is no such thing as Israeli science fiction."

I ended up writing about computers in SF, which was no fun at all.

Then, you know, stuff happened. I was busy, travelling, smoking too much d- I mean sunbathing, and work, and studies, and... at one point, I started noticing something very strange. Without my noticing, there was suddenly - wait for it - science fiction in Israel.

And not just any old SF! All of a sudden, bless the Internet, there were web sites; there were busy discussion forums; there were fans. There were magazines! There were huge conventions! There were even - shockingly - writers. New writers, Israeli writers, who wrote science fiction. Somehow, my generation, the silent generation that could revere SF only from afar, grew up and became editors, and translators, and critics, and, yes, writers.

It was a bit of a shock.

And so, the next time I was going to visit my granddad in Israel, I arranged it to overlap on one of the annual conventions, and I went along, and I met some people, and had a good time, and drunk too much coffee. And I wrote for those new magazines, and I even participated in a couple of panels, for my sins. Panels! There were no panels when I was growing up.

And, you know, this whole SF revival in Israel (and this corresponds to a large extent to what is happening in other countries, btw) is just amazing to me. And very cool. And I love being a small part of it.

And I think it's great that this kid can come along and say what he says - because he can say it. I couldn't have said it when I was twenty one. There was no Israeli science fiction then. But now there is! And it is very much in its infancy still, and it does need new blood. Every field does. In fact, it needs all the blood it can get. Or ink. Or whatever.

But isn't it cool?




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[info]avgboojie
2007-01-05 07:35 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I enjoyed that as well. Back in '99, when I joined the community, there didn't seem to be any use to hebrew/israeli SF, beside maybe balancing a rocking table or something. We had tremendous arguments with writers and readers alike who were claiming that SF taking place in Israel with characters with Israeli names is unnatural and no one will want to read it.
It's nice to see how far we've gone, that people take for granted the fact that there SHOULD be places to publish, those very same places we went and created for ourselves because there really weren't any. Nice. :-)

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[info]suricattus
2007-01-05 08:09 pm UTC (link)
*giggle* Geek on!

(When I was in Israel in, oh lord, 1978? 79? [Okay, I'm old] I found exactly one SF book available in stores -- McCaffrey's The White Dragon. Nothing else, in English or Hebrew. So very glad that's changed!)

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[info]cybermonklives
2007-01-05 11:40 pm UTC (link)
You know what, my geekiest ever moment was in Israel last year. I went for breakfast in Tel Aviv with my friend Nir [info]jspoons and his girlfriend, and, well, I'm the sort of person waiters ignore, while Nir emphatically isn't. So after the waitress ignored my attempts to contact her to ask for a glass of water which I initially asked for anyway, I asked Nir to get her attention, which he did in no uncertain terms, and the water arrived as if by magic.

Not thinking, I said, "You know, in Kzinti your name would be Speaker-to-Waiters!"

I don't think he'll ever let me forget that...

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[info]jspoons
2007-01-06 11:30 am UTC (link)
Oh yes, how I remember that. And, of course, the shouting argument you and Guy Hasson had about the exact serial number of the USS enterprise. And I was, like, "Stop! Shuddup! Quiet, you two! You're embarassing me!"

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[info]avgboojie
2007-01-07 08:14 pm UTC (link)
The White Dragon wasn't translated into hebrew until recently. It must have been Dragonflight.
But there were other books available, even then. Only, of course, they were all translated from English. Very few Israeli SF books were available.

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[info]highlydubious
2007-01-06 05:33 pm UTC (link)
I don't know if I agree with the whole "Israeli SF is dead", but I kind-of agree that it's a little stagnate. The major difference between today and, let's say, 15 years ago, is the internet. You could have lived in the same neighborhood with 20 other SF fans, but chances are that you would not have known it. My clearest memory from the first SF convention I went to back in '97 was "OMG! There are more like me!". People today, whether they are 10, 20 or older can get it almost immediately.

Anyhow - I can see why some people may think that Israeli SF is at the same place today as it was, let's say, 2 years ago. In order to feel the forward momentum, the SF community must reinvent itself all the time, do bigger (or at least more and/or other) things.

The problem with getting out of this stagnation is that it may require some "new blood" as this kid wrote, and from the outside, the SF community, especially its "elite" does look like a very closed "clique".

So - is this kid right? partially. But there's no reason to take what he's saying personally, only to try to harness his enthusiasm.

(and yes, it's cool)

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[info]cybermonklives
2007-01-07 05:10 pm UTC (link)
I don't think it's stagnant, I think it's in its infancy. There's a big difference there.

But I have a hangover so I'm not going to develop this train of thought just now...

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[info]avgboojie
2007-01-07 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Well, just like you tend to tell me when I talk about the management of conventions: you've no idea what you're talking about.
The local SF is expanding immensely. People nowadays see it as totally natural that SF can be written in Israel, new SF books - either as "official" SF or as "don't mind me, I'm actually mainstream" SF are published in numbers that have never been seen before, every year there several more new writers (as well as other "activists") join the "clique". Of course, after they join the clique, it appears as though they've always been there.
The guy who wrote that in the Aspamia forum? Read well what he wrote ("well, of course I would have done something, only it's too much work, too expensive and it wouldn't work anyway, so I will complain and do nothing else") and tell me if you'd really want to harness such a person's so-called enthusiasm.

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